Former President Barack Obama opened up about the reality of his and Michelle Obama’s marriage. Earlier this month, the 61-year-old revealed how his two terms in the White House impacted their relationship.

Barack and Michelle Obama have been the gold standard of relationship goals for a long time. But lately? The rumor mill has been working overtime, churning out all kinds of gossip about a supposed rough patch in their marriage.

Michelle Obama is getting candid about her marriage to former president Barack Obama. The former First Lady appeared on the March 20 episode of Kylie Kelce’s “Not Gonna Lie” podcast. During their conversation, Obama revealed that her husband at one point suggested the idea of a third child.